Todd Freeman posted an articleSkwellipil Creek Rec Site to re-open under 4WDABC banner. see more
UPDATED for AUGUST 25, 2019:
As of this past weekend, a new outhouse has been installed, and another will be added within a couple of weeks.
A major cleanup was undertaken, mostly of toilet paper and... associated refuse... scattered throughout the campground, often right beside camp spots and roadways. We hope that with the new outhouse, people won't feel the need to leave such a mess.
There is currently no plan to install garbage cans, so be sure to bring garbage bags and pack out what you pack in.
A boat launch is being constructed at the south end of the site, and we ask that campers please be cognizant not to block access to it.
SKWELLEPIL CREEK REC SITE WILL REMAIN OPEN FREE TO USE UNDER THE MAINTENANCE OF 4WDABC VOLUNTEERS, but we must ALL be responsible for its care and upkeep.
After the Labour Day long weekend, cross ditches will be constructed in the driveway below the gate to aid runoff and prevent further erosion the road. Rec Sites and Trails BC has directed that the site should remain "4x4 access only" so no further road improvements are planned.
(As posted to Facebook):
As some of you may know, last year the government made a decision, after over 25 years of service, to lock the gate and officially close down the Skwellipil Creek Rec Site on the west side of Chehalis Lake, to ALL vehicle traffic. Although this may have seemed like a great idea to some, the majority of the community were pretty disappointed. Most of the local community have been enjoying this site and area for over 20 years. They have camped there as young kids and now continue this tradition with their kids, like me. For those involved in these kinds of situations, we know that it is not easy and can be a long drawn out process to fight for places like these. The Four Wheel Drive Association of BC has played a major role in taking over management of such sites.
Well, last year I took it upon myself to make this my mission to get this site open to the public once again. So I started a petition, hoping to get 500 signatures. That petition exceeded 500 and rose to almost 900! So the response was a true reflection on how much this site meant to the community. I presented this petition with a letter to the Rec officer, MLA and 4WDABC. I was greeted with positivity and open minds. Over the past year or so, with much correspondence with the Rec officer and the MLA, I was able to keep this conversation active and moving forward with progress.
With that being said….I would like to thank ALL of those who took the time to sign the petition and write comments on why you wanted to keep this site open.
Through our hard work and dedication, an agreement between the Recreation Sites and Trails BC and the 4WDABC was signed just recently allowing the management of this site to be given to 4WDABC!
The gate will remain open indefinitely.
I am so proud to be part of this cause and to be part of a community that fights for causes like this.
More information on how you can help improve and maintain this site, for years to come, will be coming soon. We will need to add a couple of outhouses and numerous clean-ups throughout the year.
- Todd Freeman
Matt Ion posted an articleNorrish Gate Access see more
Originally posted to Facebook by Matt Ion, January 23, 2019
In November of 2018, users of Norrish Creek FSR were surprised to see a new sign stating the gate at 8km would be closed 24/7 as of January 1. Naturally, this caused some concern, as Norrish is a popular destination close to Mission. The Norrish drainage basin is a major part of the fresh water supply for Mission and Abbotsford, so it's not surprising that access might be restricted.
In December I contacted the City of Abbotsford water department and learned that when the gate was installed 10 years prior, the plan had always been to close it 24/7, but various technical and logistical issues with its operation led to them simply leaving it open. In 2018 though, the issues were sorted out, and the decision made to permanently close the gate, with access controlled by a keypad code that would be issued to approved stakeholders and user groups, with the stated intention being not to close off access, but merely to monitor it.
As of January 2019, the 4WDABC has requested and received a gate code from the city! They require that the code is provided ONLY to members of the Association - this means CURRENT paid members.
If you'd like to use the code, we ask that you fill out the form at http://bit.ly/4wdabcnorrishgate - please be sure to use the email address you provided when you got your membership, so we can confirm your status. The information gathered is for 4WDABC internal use only.
If you haven't been a paid member before, please CLICK HERE and select New Membership
If you'd like to renew now, please CLICK HERE and select Membership Renewal
If you have any issues with this process, please email email@example.com
Please remember that unauthorized distribution of the code, or abuse of the access, may result in the code being deactivated and loss of access for all members. We simply ask that everyone operate on the honour system in not sharing the code yourself.
Kim Reeves posted an articleA brief history of 4x4 access to Eagle Mountain see more
Eagle Mountain Access for 2019
Posted by Kim Reeves, December 17, 2018
We received an email today that elaborated on the road works that were recently undertaken on Eagle Mountain in Coquitlam and gave some new info about monitoring road conditions while expressing concern about traffic.
“The new works on Cypress FSR have removed the rock feature known as the gatekeeper and has added many large swales and water bars to allow proper drainage with minimal maintenance. This work greatly reduces some of the barriers that required the high clearance vehicle specifications in order to access Cypress Lake and the lookout. Many of the new water bars are quite soft and increased use of the trail could compromise the drainage of the trail substantially.”
“The DRO requests the City of Coquitlam to not allow any additional users to access the Bluetooth lock for the time being. RSTBC would like to monitor the impact on the new trail with Coquitlam’s current list of 4×4 users for approx 6-16 months in order to allow the trail surface to settle and firm up. “
The above quotes outline the concerns of the District Recreation Office. I am following up with the Rec Officer tomorrow to confirm exactly what all of this means as well as exploring the idea of installing a ‘gatekeeper’ obstacle to help keep traffic at predictable levels.
So, those with Bluetooth keys active in 2018 will be able to renew keys with the City of Coquitlam beginning January 3rd at their works yard on Service Center Road.
For those who do not have Bluetooth keys that have been active in 2018 will NOT be able to get keys in 2019, or until the ministry is satisfied with the stability of their road works. What this really means is you need to make some friends. 🙂
Please remember, the City of Coquitlam manage the key program and have done so for almost 9 years. This program has been for the primary benefit of the four wheel drive community. Last January, a Bluetooth lock replaced the conventional key lock which improved access and monitoring immensely, to the 4×4 community’s benefit. Please keep in mind that the City of Coquitlam has respected our community every step of the way in working with us to continue access to this crown land. In this situation, they are simply complying with the gate owner’s (province of BC) requirements. Please respect the City of Coquitlam and it’s employees who have treated us so well.
Eagle Mountain and the result of ministry work re-commissioning and decommissioning the FSR.
Posted by Kim Reeves, December 16, 2018
Eagle Mountain Decommissioning – debrief
As many of you know, the ministry contracted the above work to be done on Cypress Lake FSR, aka Eagle Ridge trail. This work had to be done once the ministry became fully aware that this road had not been decommissioned after the last logging took place in the late 70’s/early 80’s.
Serious discussions began about this work in the summer of 2018 and actual work on the road began in late September and completed this past week.
The Four Wheel Drive Association of BC has been actively and extensively involved in trying to influence the end result of this work. We worked with the primary consulting company and the company doing the actual heavy equipment work over the last 3 months.
While the result is not what we had hoped for, we did manage to get the company to spend 1 day to build a handful of obstacles that will challenge our rigs and provide some more difficult lines. The 4WDABC invested about $1200 to make this happen so we were not left with a simple decommissioned road with drainage ditches.
This is our first experience working so closely with companies engaged in decommissioning and we learned a lot, particularly around how many obstacles there are to truly achieve high-value recreational obstacles while working with government.
Seriously, if you like difficult obstacles where you have to try multiple lines to achieve success, join me in the advocacy arena!
On the much brighter side, Eagle sees a TON of rain and the erosion will take place and old obstacles will re-expose themselves in due course. A little shovel work here and there (gatekeeper) wouldn’t hurt either.
For the more difficult stuff, take the first right going up the main FSR, branch 1 offers a few challenges.
Anyway, that is the news. We did our best and learned a lot. It was nice to have some influence for a change and I think this bodes well for the future.
Eagle Mountain: Temporary Restricted Access
Posted by Kim Reeves, September 5, 2018
I met with Ministry of Forests representatives along with the City of Coquitlam, road construction companies, and Metro Van reps on August 22 to discuss the contract for road re-commissioning and decommissioning of Cypress Lake FSR, aka Eagle Mountain, that was placed on BC Bid last month. The contractor who is awarded this project will begin Sept 10 and complete by Oct 20, 2018. Expect no access to Eagle Mountain during this time.
The scope of work is limited to re-commissioning the road from the beginning of gravel all the way to Cypress Lake. Once the road is re-commissioned, all water culverts will be pulled and armoured water bars will be constructed. Department of Fisheries and Oceans WILL NOT be decommissioning the dam at Cypress Lake at this time. Rogers WILL NOT be installing a 60 meter tower at this time.
The water bar construction and armouring is to accommodate 4 wheel drive vehicles traversing them without damage so that was a nod in our favour to continued access.
The gatekeeper obstacle and all obstacles that currently exist will not be blasted or destroyed, rather, the will be filled over. The gatekeeper will be re-exposed upon completion of the decommissioning. Other obstacles will show themselves in the coming years as erosion takes its natural course.
The 4WDABC intends to work with the contractor who is awarded this project to build some new obstacles to make the trail interesting in the short term while the system returns to what we have come to be used to.
We will also be pursuing a partnership agreement once the road is decommissioned and taken off the ministry books as an FSR so that we can maintain continued access to this high-value 4×4 recreation trail.
Access Changes at Eagle Mountain
Posted by Kim Reeves, August 17, 2018
Eagle Mountain update:
On August 16th, an Invitation to Tender document was posted on BC Bid stating the desire to reactivate and deactivate the road system on Eagle Mountain.
The following is my own supposition and not based on firm facts at this time. I have calls in to the Ministry of Forest Lands and Natural Resource Operations to clarify the facts so that I can then share them with the wheeling community.
I infer this work to mean reactivating and deactivating Cypress Lake FSR from the start of gravel all the way to the Cypress Lake Dam. I assume from the many conversations and meetings that we have had with Ministry of Forests, Rec Sites and Trails, City of Coquitlam, Rogers Communications, Department of Fisheries and Oceans, etc, that this will include DFO decommissioning the Dam at Cypress Lake. I also have heard that Rogers has put a tenure request and build request in for a 60 meter cellular tower to be built on Eagle Mountain.
The tenure document states that the road will be closed from September 10th to October 19th, 2018 and all works have to take place within that window. If this is accurate, I read that to mean no wheeling will be allowed during this time frame.
What happens after this time frame is unknown. The 4WDABC has been in constant communications about this project and what may happen during decommissioning. It is our desire to have input into the decommissioning to build Eagle back to the difficult terrain that we see today, or perhaps even better.
Wish us luck!
Eagle Mountain Progress: Showing Them How We Wheel
Posted by Kim Reeves, June 15, 2018
(Posted to Facebook, June 6, 2018)
Eagle Mountain assistance required.
We have an opportunity to assist the fish hatcheries and DFO, and perhaps some local Forestry folks, by driving them up to Cypress Lake above Coquitlam. Some tools and equipment need to be transported as well as 6 – 8 people.
I figure 3 trucks would be perfect to come along with me. I would prefer 3 experienced drivers in fairly presentable rigs to assist to allow us to put our best foot forward.
A weekday would be preferable, like a Thursday. Would anyone be available to assist on Thursday June 14? Count on this being a full day with 9 am meet to run up the mountain and a late afternoon exit from the mountain.
Note that this trail is somewhat nasty and the gatekeeper is very gnarly. Not stock friendly at all!
Please contact me directly via PM or email at firstname.lastname@example.org
(Posted to Facebook, June 14, 2018)
What a great day today was!
Four of us wheeled Eagle Mountain and ferried folks from Noons Creek Hatchery, Mossom Creek Hatchery and some government folks up to Cypress Lake.
They had some work to do at the dam, perform some assessments, move some water and take some measurements.
The trip up and down was relatively uneventful thanks to the excellent driving and spotting from our volunteers.
I want to thank Jim, Dusty and Ron for taking the day off work and accompanying me up the mountain and also for carrying passengers and gear.
The 6 passengers we carried up the mountain will not soon forget their first wheeling experience as Eagle is a hell of a place to begin.
We did ourselves a huge favour today and I thank you for making this happen!
Eagle Mountain Access
Posted by Kim Reeves, July 13, 2017
On June 20th, 2017, Rec Sites and Trails BC advised me that the Ministry of Forests Lands and Natural Resource Operations (MFLNRO) under the direction of the District Engineering Officer, would be closing the Cypress Lake Forest Service Road to 4×4 and ATV as of June 30th, citing unrestricted access and existing potential public safety concerns at the Cypress Lake Dam as the main concerns, thus removing legitimate access to the Eagle Mountain wheeling trails.
June 25th, I arranged a meeting for July 11th with the District Manager and engineering staff to assess the situation and determine if a solution could be reached for continued access to this favourite wheeling destination, arranging for a “stay of execution” until that time.
After representatives of the Four Wheel Drive Association of BC met with the Ministry of Forest Lands and Natural Resource Operations, the City of Coquitlam, Department of Fisheries and Oceans and Mossom Creek Hatchery, it was agreed that Cypress Lake Forest Service Road (AKA Eagle Mountain) will remain open. The parties mentioned above will be working together to address environmental concerns, hydrology issues as well as some safety issues.
To secure the long term future of Cypress Lake Forest Service Road, we will need to enter into a road maintenance agreement (RMA) with the Ministry. This agreement will need to address a number of things.
The reason for the RMA is that the government is trying to reduce it’s liability exposure so without this agreement, the road would be completely decommissioned. What does it mean to take over the liability of this road with an RMA? This is what we will be exploring.
We will be required to make a maintenance plan for the road which will require us to address the following;
– Environmental concerns, including hydrology plan to direct water flow to Noons Creek and Mossom Creek
– Some consideration of public safety, while considering the difficulty of the road is what we wish to maintain.
– Safety of our volunteers and workers during maintenance
In essence, we would become the designated maintainer of this road.
In the short term, the ministry will be installing lock blocks on the northeast side of the paved road, just past the gate to stop vehicular traffic from dropping down into the hydro easement. We, working with the Ministry, will also be exploring the idea of our volunteers removing any existing culverts on the road and water barring with the goal of maximizing the water into Noons Creek and Mossom Creek.
We will also be working with the city of Coquitlam to set new requirements to get a key and then a change of the lock on the gate. This will require everyone who has a key and wishes to get a new key to come to the office and do a swap, following the new requirements.
It is of utmost importance that we respect this area and stay on the roads, stay off the forest floor, be super careful around the creeks, and lock the gate religiously! Also, PLEASE avoid using the “back door” route. If we’re going to be responsible for this, we as a group of wheelers need to BEHAVE responsibly.
We will be working with the City of Coquitlam to develop a new requirements list for those wishing to get a key. Once we have this, a new lock will go up and new keys will be available. This should be a straight trade for the keys we have, but those details are still being worked out.
To do this, we will require the services of a Registered Professional Forester, a road builder/engineer or a geotechnical engineer. If you are one or know one who wheels, please have them contact email@example.com – we would love to hear from them and hopefully engage them in this project.
Eagle Mountain and the Key Program
Posted by Kim Reeves, April 8, 2015
Eagle Mountain, or Eagle Ridge as it is also known, is an old, deactivated forest road system north of Westwood Plateau, or as many would remember, north of Westwood Raceway. This area has been an active wheeling area since the ‘50’s.
Access to this area by 4wheelers was officially closed and gated in 2002. This closure marked the end to wheeling west of Stave Lake. This marked the end to weeknight wheeling as well where a small group could go for an hours drive, have some fun and enjoy a nice view of the city.
Our community didn’t give up, people kept speaking up, writing letters to the city, attending meetings with the city, BC Hydro, the golf course and the Ministry of whomever it was that day.
Finally, in 2009, our efforts were rewarded with a key access program hosted by the City of Coquitlam. This was the culmination of work and many meetings between the City, the Ministry of Tourism, Culture and the Arts, BC Hydro, the golf course, the Four Wheel Drive Association and other wheelers.
In April 2010, the program was up and running. People could go to the City maintenance yard, show their ID and registration papers and receive a key.
This program has been immensely popular and the issues that have been faced by the trail system have been few. A few locks for the gate have disappeared, some people have been driving in out of bounds areas just north of the hydro lines but other than that, all sides are pleased with the results. The city has tethered the lock to the gate so it cannot be lost or taken. All parties will work to keep people in bounds as well. In addition, the keys will change and the City is changing the key program to now include a deposit for the key to offset costs.
The Four Wheel Drive Association of BC is very proud to have been part of this effort to reopen access to Eagle Mountain and we consider it a terrific precedent and an excellent model for re-accessing other areas that have been lost.